Wednesday, April 15, 2009

Have We Become Just A Nation Of Hypocrites In How We Show Our Patriotism ?

With the foreign made cars we drive? The made in China American flags we wave? Or the made in Viet Nam Niki shoes that we wear?





Try this out for irony:





Doesn’t anyone here care that both China and Viet Nam are still communist countries and by buying their products we are helping to keep their form of government alive?





Are you supporting America or are you supporting and feeding the greed of a handful of Americans who are outsourcing our jobs and our future to other countries?





I%26#039;m not an Obama supporter and won%26#039;t vote for him but maybe, just maybe, Obama has a point!

Have We Become Just A Nation Of Hypocrites In How We Show Our Patriotism ?
Don%26#039;t bother, today they call communists taking our manufacturing sector as %26quot;free trade%26quot;. They would rather see more comunist countries to exploit, as long as they don%26#039;t have to live in one.


Just as some people have a problem differentiating between bad policies, and our troops, they likewise have a problem with seeing the difference between%26quot;free exploitation%26quot; and %26quot;free trade%26quot;.





They would like to see Americans making .50 a day, unable to afford what they produce, as long as they don%26#039;t have to live that way, hence their hatred for labor standards, and labor unions.
Reply:(this was actually an answer to the question...%26#039; do you think the fires of hell will be hot enough for Bush An Cheney%26#039;, but it fits here as well!....hypocrisy its best! )


Dude your question says it all!!!


And to those who are still to weak to admit that you are still under the spell of George Bush and Dick Cheney,


its time for all of you to open your eyes!


Buying into the %26#039;terrorism%26#039; fear tactics by these very smart...corruptly smart men, is just proof of how almost genius their plan is. Terrorism is nothing new! Its been around for hundreds of years if not thousands.


Other lands have spread fear through mass killings. But our government has chosen to destroy the homes and the lives of so many innocent people in of all places Iraq. As much as you brainwashed Americans want to believe that what we are doing is right, we have done nothing but not only add fuel to the fire, but we have become the fire!!!


Fact....Iraq had nothing to do with the 9/11...nothing!


Fact....Outside of being a nasty dictator, in his own country...whose people allowed it, Saddam Hussien was no threat to anyone!


Fact...In the world of high-tech, the U.N. was doing a thorough and exhaustive search using technology that many of us doesn%26#039;t even know exist! What would it have hurt to let them do their job?


Fact....What has been happening in Darfur since 2002!!!.....the Genocide the has murdered and raped so many innocent civilians, far outweighs what was happening in Iraq! But where is the freedom fighting America??? Its in Iraq, fighting in a country that has not attacked us in any way! And now there is talk of attacking the much now-feared Iran. You see the plan has always been to associate terror with a %26#039;face%26#039;!


A real human being. And now that Osama Bin-laden is starting to lose its punch so to speak, once again our president and vice-president have figured that...%26quot;the more the merrier%26quot;! So now its Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Attack Iran!!!! Think people! It would mean another 2 to 7 year commitment of trillions of dollars! 100,000,000,000,000.....just in case you don%26#039;t really know what a trillion dollars looks like! Thats just one trillion.


Fact...By invading Iraq and spending so much time there, not only Iraq but so many other countries now know just how we operate. After a few years, it was figured out that IED%26#039;s were an indefensible weapon!


We have simply provided a training ground and given hundreds of thousands who normally have nothing to attach themselves to, a reason for themselves to be %26quot;patriots%26quot;! The only reason for such a horrible strategy would only be to keep war going!


Fact...major companies in which either Bush and Cheney were on the board of directors or held interest in...have profited big time for our...thats me and you....money!!!! We are the ones paying these companies through our taxes...from the government which is run by both Dick Cheney and George Bush!


This is not a hard thing to put together and see just what has happened when Bush and Cheney were elected. But some of you just don%26#039;t want to believe that these men have in fact %26quot;USED%26quot; the white house for personal gain...or should I say %26#039;private%26#039; gains.


The question is really not just how hot the fires are going to be for Bush and Cheney, but if whether or not the potential hell that may be coming for us as a nation, we will be able to stand! And believe me...it could get really hot if we allow these two men to take us deeper in our aggressive actions to innocent countries. Should Iran be called out for any thing that can be proven that they have done...absolutely! But the United States of America single handedly possibly starting a world war by attacking Iran is not democracy at all. Unless attacked...the United States should be the one country whose skill in diplomacy should be the example for the world!


Now you tell me......none of this makes sense to you?


If the answer is no....it just got a little bit hotter!!!!!
Reply:You CAN%26#039;T be a Patriot- WITHOUT being a Hypocrite. THAT%26#039;s the Flaw in Nationalism. If We truely ARE the %26quot;land of the free%26quot; for ALL people, and we want cheap products %26amp; unlimited access to the World%26#039;s markets, then we%26#039;re GOING to Outsource %26amp; buy from other Countries- because Capitolism knows NO Borders... %26amp; who%26#039;s going to pay for someone %26quot;else%26#039;s%26quot; -patriotism??!
Reply:personally, I think Obama makes many good points...





more than any other candidate...





and it%26#039;s rediculously hypocritical...





China has numerous rights violations every year... probably many that we don%26#039;t even know about...





yet they get favored nation trading status?





why?





because we make money off of it... or investors make money off of it... if you%26#039;re not an investor, you%26#039;re probably not making money...
Reply:I love how the righties will call Dems/Libs %26quot;commies%26quot; because we favor programs that go to help our citizens, yet they%26#039;ll defend sending money to these %26quot;evil%26quot; communists country all while patting themselves on the back for being patriots.





Does common sense or rational thinking ever factor into the way these people think? Do they not know the definition of hypocrisy? How can one talk about patriotism, then call it%26#039;s own citizens communists for supporting programs that are designed to only help OUR citizens, then defend companies that literally fund and support communists nations? What gives?
Reply:Human societies have evolved by trading with each other. Trading and buying each others products does not imply a lack of patriotism. Bashing one%26#039;s country does. however. I am not saying that you are, BTW.
Reply:You may add to your question that if it is OK to do business with china, why is it not OK to do business with Cuba just next door? At least Cubans are our neighbors. What makes the chinese better communists?
Reply:You can buy flags made in America, you know. Does intentionally shunning the U.S. flag because of NAFTA (which Clinton(D) passed) show some kind of patriotism? If so it%26#039;s an odd brand of it.
Reply:You have a valid concern, however the issues are much more complex than that. A great majority of our (republican initiated) national debt is now owed to China. If we as a nation were to %26quot;pressure%26quot; Beijing, we would pay the cost in increasingly higher inflation and interest rates as our friends to the east would rapidly begin to collect our debt. If we were to simply not pay it, our credit rating with the rest of the world would plummet and we would be literally crushed into a recession.





We also have to live with the reality that we can%26#039;t choose other people%26#039;s government system for them, and we can%26#039;t afford to NOT take advantage of what china has to offer--even if they exploit their workers.





If we were to suspend trade with china, other foreign firms would pick up the slack, and they would be getting their products from--China. China is the world%26#039;s manufacturing capital, and its something that we just have to live with. China is changing from internal pressure, they are just incredibly slow to change.





Frankly, I have no problem with trading with China overall, because the more reliant our two countries are economically, the less chance there is for war.





As far as Patriotism is concerned, it has nothing to do with international trade.
Reply:3 years ago I needed a new car and wanted a hybrid to save money on gas and do my small part toward making the Earth a better place. I had always bought American cars. I wanted an American made car but there were NO AMERICAN MADE HYBRIDS AVAILABLE. I ended up buying another American made fuel burning car and then gas prices shot through the roof.





Over the past few years Toyota and Honda hybrid sales in America have been great because American auto makers were too slow to produce hybrids. Meanwhile, the American auto companies have been losing billions and laying off thousands of workers but their greedy CEO%26#039;s are still making millions and flying in private jets.





The most un-American company right now is Walmart yet most of their shoppers can%26#039;t afford to shop anywhere else or are just too plain dumb to understand that they%26#039;re screwing their own country...





Over the past 6+ years America has become a shameful extension of the greedy crooks who are Bush%26#039;s and Cheney%26#039;s cronies. I still can%26#039;t believe all of those millions of people voted for them AGAIN in 2004. What a terrible shame...





Patriotism? Yeah, sure... At this point Obama, Clinton, Edwards, whichever one gets in has a hell of a job to do getting this country back on track.





Fred Thompson? If America votes in another greedy cowboy crook I%26#039;m moving to Canada...
Reply:BUY AMERICAN MADE PRODUCTS MADE BY SCAB FREE UNION MANUFACTURING!!!





And yes it is unpatriotic. The government does it too, but lets be honest not many presidents or congressmen are PATRIOTS. Most of them are cowards that worship their allmighty dollar.
Reply:I do not believe I am an American Hypocrite. I am an American Patriot. I was a USAF B52 Pilot during the Viet Nam war. I put my money where my mouth was, and supported our country in time of war. Are you willing to do the same? I drive a Chrysler, that was made in America by a German Company. My TVs are all Japanese because no American Company makes them anymore. My computer is HP but most of its components are made outside the US.





There really is only one solution. For businesses to find ways to build it here cheaper than they can outsource it. Right now I do not think that that is possible. The only thing you can do yourself is start a boycott campaign against American Companies who outsource jobs. Stop buying foreign goods.
Reply:No not at all, why doe%26#039;s it have to be USA v the rest of the world, if me a brit buys a Ford car back home do I not love Britain etc, of course not. Or doe%26#039;s it not count when a foriegner is buying US goods. US probably exports more good to other countries that any other and you should be proud that your country has so many resources.





And if you agree with Obama why not vote for him, too many people in USA treat polical parties like football teams and wouldn%26#039;t vote for the other even if there candidate was the devil himself??
Reply:I only lisen to Rush cuz he is always rite, and i drives a ford cause my daddy did. Them commies kin go to h e double l.
Reply:Well if we got unions under rational control, switched our health care to HSA%26#039;s, didn%26#039;t ruin business with lunatic environmental regulations, and got rid of capital gains and corporate taxes. Maybe more businesses would stay in the US instead of moving overseas where business restrictions and regulations are more laxed. And the democrats are the ones that are forcing businesses to flee because of the high taxation, giving unions nearly unlimited negotiating power, making companies provide health insurance and imposing ludacris environmental regulations.





As for buying foreign goods, I don%26#039;t find that to be unpatriotic or hypocritical.



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