Wednesday, April 15, 2009

Christians, what say you?

Do you think I should be restricted from buying beer before noon on sundays, because of your personal religious beliefs?


Beer is a legal product, why should your religion have an influence in how it is distributed? If the shoe was on the other foot, and muslims were a majority, would you simply not care that restrictions were placed on your ability to purchase legal products due to their religious beliefs?

Christians, what say you?
No I don%26#039;t. This is a carry over from prohibition days. It wasn%26#039;t the Christians that started it all, it was secular social reformers. Churches got involved because it looked like a good wave in society, keeping money in the pockets of families rather than in the hands of evil drunk-makers. But of course this is going beyond Scripture, and it isn%26#039;t %26quot;Christians%26quot; that are keeping you restricted, but a certain segment of us who have never really pulled the restrictions that had already been in place. If a man enjoys beer with moderation, he ought to be able to enjoy it right after church. As Martin Luther once said, %26quot;better to think of the church in the tavern, than to think of the tavern in church.%26quot; The Bible says that if you drink, do it %26quot;for the glory of God%26quot; (1 Corinthians 10:31), so don%26#039;t blame me if your town doesn%26#039;t agree. If you don%26#039;t like it, change the law or move.
Reply:No beer %26#039;til noon on Sunday? Man, that%26#039;s gotta suck. We only have to wait till 8am here. I don%26#039;t drink anymore but I remember well that feeling when the beer is gone and it%26#039;s 4am and there%26#039;s 4 more hours to wait for more. Stupid Christians. I also get pissed when I%26#039;m being told that I%26#039;m not allowed to smoke pot on the bus ride to work.
Reply:I completely agree. No such restrictions here in the UK. Buy alcohol whenever you like.





However, I do understand that in places where there is strong minority or even a majority of conservative Christians, the local law-makers (who may themselves belong to that group, of course) feel that they have an obligation to impose laws that give an impression of sustaining a moral standard.





For many, the restriction of the purchase of alcohol on certain days is just such a gesture: impractical and pointless in practice but immensely inconvenient to those who don%26#039;t share those beliefs. I pity British and American (and Canucks and Dutch!) servicemen and women in the Middle East who must serve on %26quot;dry rations%26quot; due to prevailing local laws, but I recognize the validity of that decision by the chain of command in the area.





Personally, though, I don%26#039;t feel any need to see my beliefs reflected in local laws except as far as it maintains an orderly society.
Reply:No I do not. I think u should be free to do so.
Reply:for those who think That Sunday is a holy day they are wrong we are called to keep everyday holy so do as you please cuz if your not a follower in Christ i have no room to tell you what you can and cant do
Reply:I don%26#039;t care when you buy beer. Be my guest.
Reply:You don%26#039;t need beer in the morning.
Reply:I am a Christian, and I do understand the problem you have with the law.





I do think that government should stay out of religion. Let people practice as they want and don%26#039;t force anybody to practice anything. You can%26#039;t force people to be genuinely religious anyways.





I also have a problem when government tries to stifle religion and the religious free speech of private citizens. I just think that government is much too entrenched in religious affairs.





Get out, government. Yay for freedom of religion.
Reply:.Wow I did not know it was a religion thing about buying beer. I would think it should be illegal to buy beer before noon and after supper for most people. That fact that some one gets enraged over the buying of beer shows there is a imbalance and some ones thought process is not right. The fact of buying or not buying Beer is not a religious statement but a (matter of law). Often people who are confused about a subject reject the truth in a subject before taking the time to researched it. Muslin or not does not ever give some one the right to hate. The Bible says to partake of things moderately and not be given to drunkenness
Reply:It makes no sense to me either.
Reply:They%26#039;ll say that those laws aren%26#039;t Christian laws, but secular, even though the only reason they%26#039;re secular laws is because of the influence of Christianity, obviously. There%26#039;s definitely no rational reason why you can%26#039;t buy alcohol on Sunday.





PS - I love how once again I%26#039;m singled out for all the thumbs down, even though my remarks aren%26#039;t particularly controversial.
Reply:Hello,





No, you should be able to buy beer or wine whenever you want. There is no prohibition in the Bible about drinking wine or beer so long as it is in moderation. Similarly if I weigh an extra 50lbs I have no right to tell you when and where you can buy a pizza or Big Mac.





Off the cuff, a German friend of mine worked in South Africa in the early 70%26#039;s. To him, far worse than apartheid was the fact The Dutch Reformed Church there influenced too many things; particularly wine and beer. You couldn%26#039;t buy and even order a drink on Sunday%26#039;s in a restaurant without buying a meal, He got in a fight with a minister and said, you have your wine on Sunday... where is mine?








Cheers,





Michael Kelly
Reply:The law was set up a long time ago when the vast majority of the people attended church and most businesses were closed for the purpose of attending church. At the time, that was a way of life. Not many people failed to go to church. In today%26#039;s 24 hour I%26#039;m-a-spiritual-person not-necesarily-a-church-goer society, the law really is a little archaic. Buy your beer the night before. That way you can start in as soon as you wake up.
Reply:if i had it my way there wouldn%26#039;t even be any beer to sell - i%26#039;d rather see people going to church and drink a big bottle of jesus
Reply:I really don%26#039;t see that it%26#039;s any of my business when you buy beer, or if you do, as long as you%26#039;re not drinking and driving.
Reply:Beer is legal and if you where a Christian yo uwould understand why we don%26#039;t drink it. Personally i dont mind if you buy it...go ahead. The reason why christians don%26#039;t drink beer is because the bible say that our bodies are a temple because Jesus is in our heart so why would we %26quot;litter%26quot; in our temple and put harmful stuff in it. Why would you want to put something in your body that can harm it, if or if you aren%26#039;t a christian? Beer is just gross anyways it tastes like pee and its bad for you.
Reply:Muslims where the majority no person could buy beer any day at any hour because they would control the government and just look at Syria or Jordan for that example.





But I would say you should be allowed any day. but i would not at any hour
Reply:This law is to respect our Lord. He is almighty and He deserves to be honored. If you have to have your beer, why don%26#039;t you get it the day before? There are laws all over that don%26#039;t make sense to everyone, but it%26#039;s still the law and we are to follow them.
Reply:why would you want to drink before noon on ANY day. Really, civilized people don%26#039;t consume alcohol before the sun is over the yard arm.. besides, smart people buy enough Friday to last the whole weekend. I do see your point about religions forcing their practices on others, though.
Reply:Be thankful you don%26#039;t live in Georgia - we can%26#039;t buy beer AT ALL on Sundays!
Reply:I have had the same six pack in my fridge for months now. If you wanna come over on Sunday.....wait.....I won%26#039;t be here. Ummm, stop by Saturday night then.
Reply:No - I don%26#039;t care when you buy beer or if you buy beer. I%26#039;m sure my parents have drunk beer on Sundays and they are Christians.





My beliefs say there is nothing wrong with drinking beer in moderation - therefore it does not matter what time of day you purchase beer or what day you purchase beer. So knock yourself out :)





Peace!
Reply:Declare alcoholism a religion and sue for equal protection.
Reply:I say Moslems aren%26#039;t allowed to drink anyway so what are you worried about? Also, if you%26#039;ve ever stolen anything please cut off your hands - you%26#039;ll probably have to get help with the other one but I%26#039;m sure some good Moslem will help.


Pay attention to what it says in your Holy Koran to do and then when you do those things that it clearly says to do we%26#039;ll start to listen to your gripes and complaints but how will you write them down?
Reply:What happened to the good ole%26#039; days when most stores weren%26#039;t even open on Sundays and people went to church and spent time with their family.





***UPDATE***


I like how you attribute blacks civil rights to secularism. Does Martin Luther King Jr. sound familiar? If so, he wasn%26#039;t a secularist.
Reply:I am a Catholic and I know that in Europe you%26#039;ll see the clergy having a drink so I really don%26#039;t get it. But I did grow up in SC and I know that the Southern Baptists are to blame mostly.
Reply:Here%26#039;s a wild thought - if you know the store won%26#039;t sell alcohol on Sunday mornings why don%26#039;t you buy it Saturday night? And if you need alcohol that badly on a Sunday morning you may want to seek help instead of making bigoted comments about Christians on Yahoo!





Sheed,


My sons aren%26#039;t allowed to pray in schools because a small minority don%26#039;t believe in God. Did I come on R%26amp;S and whine about it? No, I changed them to a Christian school and moved on. I don%26#039;t agree with all the laws in this country, but I do follow them and teach my kids to do the same!
Reply:That is a law made by the ones who believe they are above the law not Christians.


And the Christians bashing continues.
Reply:there%26#039;s a town in chicagoland called south holland. you can%26#039;t buy alcohol or pornography within its limits, and all businesses except restaurants and gas stations have to close on sundays. and gas stations can only sell gas, not snacks or drinks or anything. the town keeps it this way to uphold christian values.





and yet the police arrest more prostitutes at the local motel than anywhere else i%26#039;ve ever seen.
Reply:Repeat after me....I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, with liberty and justice for all.
Reply:Most Christians don%26#039;t think about that type of thing. They%26#039;re too righteous and everyone else%26#039;s beliefs are wrong.



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